Winter and the Persimmon Seed
One more comment on Mother Nature and what winter holds. In a supermarket near you, you should find a persimmon fruit. If you cut it open a seed may be another clue to winter weather. According to old-timers, persimmon seeds can be used to predict the severity of winter weather. When cut into two pieces, the persimmon seed will display on of three symbols. A knife shape will indicate a cold icy winter (where wind will cut through you like a knife). A fork shape indicates a mild winter. A spoon shape stands for a shovel to dig out the snow.
If you do open a seed, let me know where you are located and how the seed reads.
You know how everything is “bigger” and presumably better in Texas, well that may be true. One of the signs of a heard winter is the size and frequency of spider webs. In this morning’s paper an AP article captured the fact that entomologists are looking into the discovery of a sprawling spider web that covers a number of trees and measures 200 yards. Yikes. Located in Wells Point (Texas), it is so large that one person is quoted as saying “”Now it is filled with so many mosquitoes, that it has turned a little brown. There are times you can literally hear the screech of millions of mosquitoes caught in the webs.” Experts are saying the web may be constructed by “social cobweb spiders”. I don’t know but if I lived in Texas, I’d dust off my shovel.
Labor Day – this holiday was first celebrated on Tuesday, September 5, 1882 in New York City. The originator of the celebration was the Central Labor Union. The first Labor Day holidays were celebrated with grand parades, picnics and sometimes fireworks. Today, labor Day is celebrated in many different ways but is still suppose to be a day set aside to appreciate the advancements, freedoms and prosperity our country experiences, thanks to the hardworking people who make up this country. With family and friends, have a memorable Labor Day Weekend! Stay safe.
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A few months ago, I opened up two persimmon fruits. Both had many seeds in them. All together, I got about 11 seeds. Most were spoons, with a few knives. Maybe a fork or two at most. THEN I opened up another one a week or so ago, and it had a well defined spoon in it. Columbia, South Carolina needs a good snow. BRING IT ON!
Spoons in the big “metropolis” of Fay, Oklahoma (ha, ha)…. guess thats better than knives! 11/13/09
11-11-2009 Cut open three seeds and found all spoons. I live in Columbia, Tennessee, which is in southern middle Tenn.
Opened 10 just to get a good average. All were “Spoons”. Yipee …an Indiana White Winter.
Buck Bailey
Indianapolis, IN.
Muskogee Oklahoma, Spoon, I was looking forward to a White Winter!!!
opened three,all spoons from Murfreesboro,AR.
opened up one seed and had a knife. NE Texas…
Opened up 6 seeds and 1 thumb here in Hot springs Ar. All spoons!
We opened 7 seeds today in Fulton, MO-ALL were spoons! Bring on the sledding days!
Cut open a few seed from Southwest Missouri and they are definately all spoons.
I am in Kansas City Kansas in the heart of America, I opened 3 persimmons and each one had a spoon. I am not looking forward to shoveling snow, but I guess it is better than it beind bitterly cold.
we just cut 2 open & both were spoons. we’re in Tulsa, OK.
6 spoons in Magnolia, AR!
Cut open 6 persimmon seeds from 3-4 persimmons in Southeast Kansas-they were all spoons. Very clear spoons. My son Joshua went and picked these and opened them.
We’re in Rogers, AR. We opened two seeds, and had one spoon and one fork. As long as there weren’t any knives, I’m happy.
We opened a dozen or so and they were all SPOONS here in Northeast Texas! Woo hoo…we get to build a snowman finally!
Jefferson City Missouri – 5 spo0ns
Spoons in southeastern Illinois. Yuk!
We cut open 4 seeds, we saw 3 forks and 1 spoon.
10/28/2009 Spoons in Centerville, Texas
4 spoons in Quitman Texas. Bring on the snow!!!!
TWO KNIVES AND THREE SPOONS IN WENTZVILLE, MO.
Hi. I am in Japan, in the Kanto Plain, coutryside of Tokyo. I opened a Persimmon seed from an Asian Persimmon – and got a SPOON. Clear as can be. It was bright white, just sitting there telling me what we already thought might be the case, a cold winter was headed our way.
All spoons in central mississippi.
Cut open 9 total. Found 7 spoons and 2 knifes. Get the sleds out!!!
Opened up 5 in Sapulpa Ok. all spoons! Woo! Hoo!
three spoons and one knife in Kansas City, MO
9-20-09 Cut 2 open and got spoons in Catoosa, Ok.
We scraped six persimmon seeds and ended up with four spoons and two knives .The trees are loaded with persimmons if that means anything. We are from North Carolina in the Triad section. Hoping for alot of snow an alot of persimmon pudding.
We scraped six persimon seeds an ende up with four spoons an two knives .We are in North Carolina the piedmont section.Hoping for alot of snow and persimon pudding to eat.
Today Oct. 17, 2009 at our Deer Camp in South Arkansas we have a persimmon tree just loaded with persimmons. We cut open several and all were clearly a spoon. Look out South Ark for the Snow of years.
10/18/2009 Cut open 3 seeds all were spoons. Carthage, Indiana. I was hoping for a fork!!!!
5 seeds….5 spoons….located in Burlington, NC
Oct.18.2009
3 spoons and 1 knife in ok.
opps vermillion county indiana and just open up 2 more and they was spoons
we open 4 seed in vermillion county and they was sporks whats that mean
Spoons in South East Arkansas as well.
Have opened about 50 seeds in Moody , Oklahoma, they were all spoons except the one I swallowed yesterday. Will let you know when I find it!
10/15/09 3 spoons in ARP, TEXAS
had nine spoons and one knife!! hoping for a cold winter:)
Spoon in Boynton, Ok ( aprox 20mi S.W of Muskogee)
10/10/09 Stephen Forbes State Park, Kinmundy, IL, we opened 3 and all were spoons.
I cut open 3 seeds and all were spoons. Huntingburg, Indiana..oh yes!!!!
10/12/2009 Opened up 6 seeds, 5 spoons and a knife….Shawnee, OK
I have several american persimmon trees on my property, and have opened a few of the seeds that reveal knives only. I only hope that the next few i open have a better forcast. Ilive near Holden, MO.
My dad cut open 2 seeds and both were very distinct spoons!!! NE Arkansas!!!! Ready for the snow!!!!
spoon shapes in russell springs ky
We opened 15 seeds in Strawberry Plains, TN and found 12 Spoons and 3 Knives–Hope it’s right!!!!! We are due a big snow!!!
opened up three and got three spoons here in northeast arkansas. please let it be right!!
We got our first frost yesterday and tested the persimmons. We opened 3 seeds. We had 2 spoons and 1 knife. We are looking for a cold and snowy winter in Grafton, IL.
10/11/09 – 5 spoons in Tiawah, OK
Paris, Tx
Spoons
We have record rainfall here this year and no relief in sight. I’m shopping for snow shoes.
I”ve open many seeds this year. Half have nothing in them. The other half have small spoons.
Opened up 6 seeds from the tree in our yard.. all of them spoons. But our tree always has spoons every year, never find anything different. Maybe our tree is just a spoon tree
Tyler texas
Spoons in Ozark MO.
on 10/04/2009 cut open a seed and it has a FORK!! Fayette, Mo.
Buckskin Indiana 6 spoons… My little brother is gonna b tired!!!!
Just opened three seeds and all were spoons! Jerome, MO
10-4-09 Nowata Oklahoma. Cut open seed today and it had a fork!
from little rock arkansas to dover arkansas all spoons
Wait! “In a supermarket near you”??? This would be growing locale related which could be hundreds of miles away from the supermarket. But since it sounds like almost all the persimmons are indicating snow it sounds like if there are persimmon trees in the area, snow is a safe bet in the area no matter where the grocery store persimmons came from.
Opened a seed today in Alexander City, Alabama & it’s a spoon. Snow in central Alabama? We shall see. Maybe I’ll have the first white Christmas of my life!
Found spoons in Vanderburgh County, Indiana!
Found spoons in Guntown, MS
Hugo, OK- ALL spoons
I LOOOOOVE snow!!
Bedford Indiana SPOON
We opened 42 seeds in Dendrology class today @ UArk-Fayetteville, and 100% were spoons.
Found spoons in Milam, TX. Located near Toledo Bend Lake in East Texas.
Opened up 10 in Calico Rock, AR and all were spoons !!!!!!
We found spoons in north central Arkansas.
found a spoon in persimmon seed in east texas near the border of louisiana, toledo bend lake
Opened two in Clarehdon, Ar. Spoons be found.
spoons in Georgia
What Did You Use To Cut Seed Open
6 opened and 5 spoons revealed. Number six is up in the air somewhere. Will let you know if I find it.
Iuka ILLINOIS
6 opened and 5 spoons revealed. Number six is up in the air somewhere. Will let you know if I find it.
Alot of friends from work here in East Alton Illinois are all opening up spoons!!!!! Been awhile since we’ve seen a significant amount of snow here.
Cut open 15 seeds, 14 spoons and 1 blank in Spiro, Ok
Had 3 different trees in the same area, gathered and cut open roughly 30 seeds and ALL were spoons. Usually I expect to get a couple of the other shapes but not this year. Located about 60 miles west of St. Louis, MO
An ag teacher from Cushing, OK came to the Hickson Farm in Terlton, OK and got 300 seeds and all they found was SPOONS!!!!!!!!!!!
We found a spoon in the persimmon seeds that we found at the pond @ TERLTON,OK
Fork in Central Mo.
Opened 3 seeds, all were spoons.
Murray, Ky
Opened a few at the Tire store. All Spoons. Ft. Smith AR
OPENED UP 12 IN SALLISAW,OKLAHOMA ALL SPOONS HERE ALSO
sallisaw ok. spoon east central
2 seeds, 2 spoons, London, AR
SPOONS IN LANCASTER SC TOO!!
We just opened nine seeds from our tree in the backyard….ALL SPOONS!!! The kids are excited & ready to sled! Wentzville, MO
Doing research for 8th grade Science Fair on consistency of shape within persimmon seed. I am coming up with a lot of “undetermined” shapes. Most of the posts here say spoons. What am I doing wrong?
My boys and I cut open 6 seeds! 4 spoons and 2 knives! Looks like snow here in Souther Illinois! We’re ready!
a friend cut a seed in half and it had a spoon inside.
Stoneville, NC
Soooooo excited about snow!!
Opened 3 and they were all spoons. Edna, Kansas, Southeast Kansas. Better than the ice we had last year.
I just opened some seeds. I found 13 spoons and 3 knives. Claremore, Oklahoma. RSU campus.
Opened about a dozen seeds in the past few weeks all have had spoons. Sounds exciting. North Central Arkansas
Seven spoons and one knife in NE Oklahoma!
We live in southeast MO, all the seed we opened were spoons. What does that mean?
I have three persimmon tree and took samples from all three and were all knifes and I live in arkansas
All Spoons in SoBoCo Missouri
southcentral Kentucky – all spoons so far
I cut open 6 persimmon seeds and all 6 were spoons!!!!LET IT SNOW, LET IT SNOW, LET IT SNOW!!!!
8 seeds 7 spoons 1 knife looks like a snow filled winter for southwest Indiana(Bloomfield).
In indiana southern part to different counties 100 spoons 1 knife
Every seed (LOTS!) seems to have a spoon in southern Missouri.
3 seeds all spoons here in southeast kansas
Nov, 2 , 2008 Spoon –Southwestern IL
Spoon in SE Oklahoma – not looking good for the Okies !
11 of 12 spoons 1 knife if it has to snow it better be a white Christmas found in effingham t-town dieterich Il area
We opened 4 seeds today in Jamestown, NC. We found 2 spoons, one knife and one fork. The fork looked like a spoon with a V shape in the middle…kind of like a 2-pronged fork.
Jackson, Mo. – Spoon. Have already bought the snow shovels. Better snow than the ice we had this spring.
DeSoto, MO – Spoon. Hey has anyone ever found a fork? ever? and had a mild winter to go along with it? I’ve never seen a fork in all our years looking.
Live in New Albany, In which is across the bridge from Louisville, Ky and the we cut 5 open and all were spoons.
cut open one fruit with 10 seeds found 2 knives and 6 spoons
We opened persimmon seeds all the way from from Independence, Ks. to Longton, Ks. to Moline, Ks….they were all SPOONS! heck if it snows like it rained this year, a shovel ain’t gonna do it…we need snow plows!
I opened seven seeds today and they were all spoons. My husband opened several a month or so ago from different trees in different areas and they were all spoons, looks like we may see some snow down here in the Sandhills, NC area.
All the persimmons that we have opened have shovels indicating heavy snows for Missouri.
Conway, Arkansas 4 of 4 persimmon seeds showed spoons. I would like to see a beautiful white Christmas! *Fingers Crossed*
Why was Keith opening seeds while on the clock at work? Was he doing work for Ruth?
Here in London, AR. my dad and i found 19 spoons out of 20 total. The other one didnt have anything in it. Looks like snow this year.
Lavaca arkansas, checked 5 from our backyard, all were spoons!!! Yippee!! We love the snow!
We checked several seeds from different trees in Bardstown, Kentucky-all spoons! I hate winter!!!
I’m in Springdale, AR and opened up a couple of seeds and they both were split spoons. Here comes the snow!
I have opened 5 seeds here in northern Arkansas 4 spoons and 1 knife.
Have opened several seeds from several trees , in many different areas surrounding Knoxville TN. all spoons here ……. better breack out the bibs , looks to b snow in the future.
spoons here in oklahoma, We opened 4 seeds today on October 25, 2008 and they all came up the same.
Spoons in Spiro Oklahoma,
me and my husband just opened three seeds in East TExas. all of them were spoons!! Get ready for snow!!
Found 5 spoons in Whooping Hollow Arkansas (NW).!!!!Are you ready for a lot of shoveling?
Bristol TN…Hi Shirley…opened 5 from tree across the street all spoons…
We are near Huntsville, AR. We opened a dozen wild persimmon seeds and all were spoons save one–a spork! Mom said she may have had one knife. Gitchyur snow shovels ready.
Warrenton MO – Opened 4 seeds found 4 spoons. First time ever with the persimmon seed, hope they are right, love the snow … let it snow let it snow let it snow !!!!
10/24/08 St Louis MO got a spoon
Found a wild persimmon tree on FM 1956 in Nocona, Texas. Cut open the seed and found a spoon!
We will see if this works!
Forgot to say, I opened about 6 seeds here in Greenwood, AR just outside of Ft. Smith and they were all spoons….brrrrh!!!! BRING ON THE SNOW…NO ICE, PLEASE.
Oct 23, 2008 12:30 p.m.
opened 4 seeds in Hartselle, AL. all were spoons. It looks like we’re in for snowy weather in North central Alabama, and hopefully lots of it!
Opened 4 seeds in Mulberry Arkansas all spoons
opened several over the weekend in Texas County MO…all spoons
opened 8 seeds in north ga. just north of atlanta all spoons
Opened 4 seeds and all of them had spoons. 30 miles south of St. Louis
In Adams, TN we found two spoons and one knife.
found 4 spoons and 1 fork in Fort Cobb, Oklahoma (southwest)
Spoons here in central MO, nothing but spoons!
4 spoons in Summerville, GA!
Would love to have a WHITE CHRISTMAS!!!
opened 3 and all were spoons! we never get snow in North Georgia, but looks like we will this winter…
Cut open 5 in Rogers, AR…all spoons!
3 spoons in Green Forest, Arkansas!
Bring on the snow!!
I’m in NW Georgia and we cut open 2 seeds and both were spoons! LET IT SNOW!
Opened 4 persimmons and found all knives. Thornfield MO
Open 15 seeds in Pittsburg, MO this week and found 14 spoons and 1 knife. Looks like snow in southern Missouri.
4 spoons in mt.airy georgia
All spoons in Kirkwood MO
spoons in 5 seeds
bristol, tn
Opened 2 seeds. The first was a knife and the second was a double spoon. Kansas City, Missouri area
10 17 08 found spoon in 2 seeds in tishomingo oklahoma
Just found “spoons” here in Mt. Vernon, IL too
I found a spoon in the persimmon seed I opened. Woodbury, TN
How can you tell what shape the persimmon is?
I’m doing a project on it and I haven’t found much.
HELP!!!!!
I live in southern Indiana, although I only cut open one seed I also found a spoon. I didn’t realize persimmon tree’s grew in so many states. How bout that!
i saw several knives in my persimmon seeds that i cut in to two pieces on october 15, 2008.
OK opened 10 here, every one of them was a spoon. Bonne Terre MO
Brighton, IL. Seeds are showing spoons, let it snow.
Opened 3 seeds, looked like all spoons but not sure.
From southwest Indiana, near Evansville.
Opened three seeds in southeast Kansas all were spoons!!
I’d like to see a picture of a spoon shaped, knife shaped and a fork shaped persimmon seed.
Monday October 13th, 3 seeds opened at Lovelady, Tx showed spoons.
found spoons in seeds: Northern Arkansas….
I opened about 20 seeds yesterday and they were all spoons..
Greencastle, In
We cut open 5 seeds today (10/12/08) and they are all spoons. Located in Richmond, MO.
Southwest Missouri, looks like we are having snow here. I opened seeds today and found spoons!
Shady Point, Oklahoma, October 12, 2008. “SPOON”
Opened about 30 seeds from two different trees and all were spoons.
Located in Southern Illinois (Carterville) Come on snow
in Dana,IN we opened 7seeds they were all spoons looks like snow!!!! no school!!!!!!!!!
Found 4 spoons today-we live in south western Indiana
Annapolis MO~Hyatts Creek area…mostly spoons, but some forks and knives…I thinks we’re in for some trouble this year!
I have cut open three persimmon seed and found 1 spoon and 2 knives. I live in central North Carolina. Will see if the persimmon is correct weather perdictor for this 2008 winter : )
Gloria
2 seeds both spoons in bucyrus missouri! Seems like a lot of spoons in the near by area too!
Six spoons and one knife in Tahlequah, Oklahoma
Oct. 9,2008
We have cut open 5 seeds and all are spoons. Look out Calhoun, GA
We have an old family tree, so I hit Daddy up to open a few seeds (he’s done this through out his life). 7 out of 7 seeds ALL SPOONS!! Jackson, TN. area look out!!
Central Il. Found spoons in my seeds…….located in Central Il (charleston/mattoon area)
We have spoons in southern Missouri. We cut open a lot of persimmons from the various trees in our yard, and every single one was a spoon.
We found all spoons in Dewey, Oklahoma.Sounds like everyone is finding spoons.
All spoons here in Nettleton Mississippi…..GO SNOW!!!!
From the foothills of NC we opened a total of ten seeds from different trees several miles apart. All were spoons.
We have cut open several seeds in Fayetteville, Arkansas and they were all spoons.
Found spoons in South East Oklahoma
Little Mountain South Carolina 8 seeds all spoons.
Cut open 6 today. 5 spoons and 1 knife in Cassville, MO.
<p>Cut open about 10 persimmon seeds today, in Muldrow Oklahoma. There were couple knives and the rest were SPOONS!! Looks as though we’ll be spending our free time cutting more firewood.</p>
Split several seeds this morning and found all spoons. Eucha, Ok. Northeastern Ok
cut open presimmon seeds today, all of them were spoons!!!. I love the snow. central, missouri.
After looking again, the persimmon seed had a spoon, not a knife. I was wrong, Cullman, Ala.
I cut open a persimmon seed today, and there was picture of the knife. Here in Cullman, Alabama. In northern part of Alabama.
Spoons in Greenbrier, AR. Getting the snow shovel ready
I have found a lot of Spoons in all the Seeds I have cut open..
My husband and I were out today and found a persimmon tree. We opened several seeds (at least six) all were spoons but one (it was a knife).
Marshfield Missouri (Southwest Missouri)
Opened 5 seeds and found all spoons. Get out your shovels!!! Ferguson, Mo.
ooops.. .located bartlesville oklahoma
I opened up 5 and all were spoons. Then opened one more and it had few slight splits on the end of it. Am posting about it tomorrow with pictures.
opened 3 seeds all were spoons..
west central arkansas
10 seeds all spoons Enid, Oklahoma
2 Spoons and 1 Knife here in Knoxville Tn.
Here at Persimmon Creek Ranch in Sand Springs Oklahoma we have a spoon……………Get ready for lots of snow.
Found two spoons in Harrison Arkansas. Snow is on its way. Can feel the chill already. BR, BR LOL
Opened seeds from about 4 different fruits, spoons in all of them. Hempstead, Texas
St Charles County, Missouri.
Opened 4 seeds from 4 different trees from a 7 mile trek. 2 were definitely spoons. 2 were split as trying to form a fork.
Opened a dozen here in LR, AR, yesterday to teach kids about it all, and saw nothing but spoons. Can’t wait to see ya, Frosty!
Found spoon in Lebanon, Tennessee from our old persimmon tree .
Several spoons in different locations in Sharp County, Arkansas. (NE Corner of Arkansa, almost at Missouri line)
3 spoons from 3 different trees near Hallett, Oklahoma (NE OKla)
St. Clair MO (50 mi SW of STL)- 3 seeds, all spoons. If it snows like it rained this year, we’re going to get tons of snow.
SPOONS IN NW ARKANSAS
In Central IL we opened 10 seeds all were spoons
opened about 12-15 seeds all were spoons SEARCY ARKANSAS
Found five spoons in Mitchell, In. , Snow days ahead from work and school.
We found a spoon in Stroud, Oklahoma. (Central OK)
Found spoons in Milltown Arkansas
Found spoons in Florence, Mississippi too. Wow, can’t wait to make a snowman this year!
September 18,08 Clarksdale Mississippi all seeds were spoons
Spoon in Eastern Oklahoma
all spoons in greenville missouri, williamsville. opened about 30 of them
found a spoon in Ft Leonard Wood MO 9-17-08.
I found a spoon,9-15-08, Southeast Mo.
We found a spoon in Ledbetter, KY near Paducah, KY
Found 4 spoons in Piedmont, Alabama.
5 seeds, all spoons in NE Texas
September 14, 2008
I found 4 spoons and 1 knife.
Bring in the firewood and hunker down.
Eatonton Georgia
Found all spoons in south Arkansas
Found a spoon in southwest Missouri.
In my last comment, I should have stated I’m in northwest arkansas
Cut open three seeds from local trees. Found 2 spoons and a knife. Better go cut firewood.
Just opened up 8 seeds, in Central IL… ALL SPOONS!
Spoon in Missouri 09/08/08
Found a spoon in NE Texas. Getting ready for a snow covered winter.
9-7-2008 11:30a.m.
spoon in coweta, oklahoma
I have a spoon in the piedmont of North Carolina, looks like the going shape, were ready for the snow:)
Found a spoon in NE Georgia.
A spoon in central arkansas
spoon here in arkansas looks like snow
Spoon here in South central Illinois. Ready for a snowy and cold winter, all the signs here point to it!!!
8/14/2008 Cut open a persimmon and have a spoon shaped seed. Snow anyone?
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