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		<title>By: TheMaineMan</title>
		<link>http://www.farmersalmanac.com/forum/2012/09/17/the-pattern-changes-leading-to-more-disappointment/comment-page-1/#comment-14465</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMaineMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our winter economy took a huge hit last year... was too warm to even make snow. Started out ok, but second half of January, all of February and especially March were torches. I still can&#039;t believe we had a near 80 degree day in the middle of March with mosquitoes buzzing around last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our winter economy took a huge hit last year&#8230; was too warm to even make snow. Started out ok, but second half of January, all of February and especially March were torches. I still can&#8217;t believe we had a near 80 degree day in the middle of March with mosquitoes buzzing around last year.</p>
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		<title>By: vtfreeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>vtfreeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last Fall season started out in a somewhat normal way , cold, snow etc... 
Then it started to warm up during winter. Ski areas could still make snow 
but the warm weather resulted in a short ski season. Less skiers = less
dollars in the local economy.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Fall season started out in a somewhat normal way , cold, snow etc&#8230;<br />
Then it started to warm up during winter. Ski areas could still make snow<br />
but the warm weather resulted in a short ski season. Less skiers = less<br />
dollars in the local economy.  </p>
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		<title>By: bulletins2</title>
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		<dc:creator>bulletins2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if u say that the winter will be warmer than normal then other hand can give us big outbreaks of severe weather over  the great lakes they&#039;ve been predicting this year, no outbreak have happend this summer so probably going to happend in the fall time or in the winter time thanks anyways questions feel free to answer those questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if u say that the winter will be warmer than normal then other hand can give us big outbreaks of severe weather over  the great lakes they&#8217;ve been predicting this year, no outbreak have happend this summer so probably going to happend in the fall time or in the winter time thanks anyways questions feel free to answer those questions.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMaineMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMaineMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would take any winter outlook with a grain of salt. While I don&#039;t particularly pay much attention to the NOAA forecasts, they don&#039;t predict the same thing every winter. Sometimes they are close, sometimes they are way off. 
 
I know that people on this forum like to &quot;wishcast&quot;...  personally I think that winter will start and end early in the East. Winter-like temperatures (based on averages) will start in late November but will be gone by mid-February, and overall may be warmer than normal. However, I would expect a rather active stormtrack, which should give many at least close to their average snowfall. I&#039;ll finalize my &quot;predictions&quot; with some maps later on, but I&#039;m currently leaning towards overall slightly-above-average temperatures and close-to-average snowfall for much of the East.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would take any winter outlook with a grain of salt. While I don&#8217;t particularly pay much attention to the NOAA forecasts, they don&#8217;t predict the same thing every winter. Sometimes they are close, sometimes they are way off.<br />
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I know that people on this forum like to &#8220;wishcast&#8221;&#8230;  personally I think that winter will start and end early in the East. Winter-like temperatures (based on averages) will start in late November but will be gone by mid-February, and overall may be warmer than normal. However, I would expect a rather active stormtrack, which should give many at least close to their average snowfall. I&#8217;ll finalize my &#8220;predictions&#8221; with some maps later on, but I&#8217;m currently leaning towards overall slightly-above-average temperatures and close-to-average snowfall for much of the East.</p>
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		<title>By: ShawnM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShawnM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All NOAA is reliable for are the current weather conditions! I&#039;d take their warm winter outlook with a grain of salt! They pretty much say the samething every year regardless if that happens or it&#039;s completely the opposite!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All NOAA is reliable for are the current weather conditions! I&#8217;d take their warm winter outlook with a grain of salt! They pretty much say the samething every year regardless if that happens or it&#8217;s completely the opposite!</p>
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		<title>By: TheMaineMan</title>
		<link>http://www.farmersalmanac.com/forum/2012/09/17/the-pattern-changes-leading-to-more-disappointment/comment-page-1/#comment-14411</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMaineMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[48 is great weather for open windows at night. Once it starts going in the low 40s/upper 30s I shut the windows though.
 
Personally I&#039;d like to see very weak blocking, but not heavy blocking. Heavy blocking too far east just causes mild maritime air to dominate weather, much like 2009-2010. Western blocking on the other hand, like 2010-2011, would let some cold down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>48 is great weather for open windows at night. Once it starts going in the low 40s/upper 30s I shut the windows though.<br />
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Personally I&#8217;d like to see very weak blocking, but not heavy blocking. Heavy blocking too far east just causes mild maritime air to dominate weather, much like 2009-2010. Western blocking on the other hand, like 2010-2011, would let some cold down.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grandin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey glen NOAA isnt all that trust worthy man. dont count on there therey
 
dan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey glen NOAA isnt all that trust worthy man. dont count on there therey<br />
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dan</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowloki10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadowloki10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am in Northern VA and it was 48 degrees last. I had the window open and I was freezing. It is supposed to be in the low 80s for 2 days then upper 60s/low 70s. It is starting to feel like fall around here. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Northern VA and it was 48 degrees last. I had the window open and I was freezing. It is supposed to be in the low 80s for 2 days then upper 60s/low 70s. It is starting to feel like fall around here. </p>
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		<title>By: snowlover</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been feeling really cool (literally) here.  Now I&#039;m told that Sat will be in the UPPER 80s :(  Oh well...at least we know that on that same day is the FIRST DAY OF AUTUMN!!!!!  Oh..I&#039;m in Central Virginia!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been feeling really cool (literally) here.  Now I&#8217;m told that Sat will be in the UPPER 80s <img src='http://www.farmersalmanac.com/forum/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   Oh well&#8230;at least we know that on that same day is the FIRST DAY OF AUTUMN!!!!!  Oh..I&#8217;m in Central Virginia!</p>
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		<title>By: glennkoks</title>
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		<dc:creator>glennkoks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like NOAA is calling for the warm weather centered where it has been all summer to continue through the new year.  Bummer for us cold lovers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like NOAA is calling for the warm weather centered where it has been all summer to continue through the new year.  Bummer for us cold lovers.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rickster</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rickster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weatherbug on my Droid says a low of 53 on this cominng Tuesday night. Ohhh yeahhh. Thats so far out though, it&#039;ll probably go on up a little bit. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weatherbug on my Droid says a low of 53 on this cominng Tuesday night. Ohhh yeahhh. Thats so far out though, it&#8217;ll probably go on up a little bit. </p>
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		<title>By: snowboi1</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowboi1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be down to mid 50s here at night by sunday and monday night next week and highs upper 70s to low 80s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be down to mid 50s here at night by sunday and monday night next week and highs upper 70s to low 80s.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rickster</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rickster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Down to 61 as I type this, with a dew point of 57.2. I went outside earlier. It was nice and crisp. Felt wonderful. Looking forward to cooler temps still though. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down to 61 as I type this, with a dew point of 57.2. I went outside earlier. It was nice and crisp. Felt wonderful. Looking forward to cooler temps still though. </p>
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		<title>By: KatD-Mo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>KatD-Mo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Missouri has highs for the weekend forcasted in the 60&#039;s.   that sure beats the pants off of our 110 summer.  it&#039;s mellowed out to highs in the 70&#039;s and a few days in the low 80&#039;s.

a high of 60 something for Sat &amp; sunday, will be a treat!

I&#039;m not quite ready for snow, I&#039;d like some good fall weather first. :D    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missouri has highs for the weekend forcasted in the 60&#8242;s.   that sure beats the pants off of our 110 summer.  it&#8217;s mellowed out to highs in the 70&#8242;s and a few days in the low 80&#8242;s.</p>
<p>a high of 60 something for Sat &amp; sunday, will be a treat!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite ready for snow, I&#8217;d like some good fall weather first. <img src='http://www.farmersalmanac.com/forum/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />     </p>
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		<title>By: spellbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>spellbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[going down to 35 here tonight, feels good !!!!!!   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>going down to 35 here tonight, feels good !!!!!!   </p>
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