Sorry to be a B**** but I am going to really hate this winter so bad a lot of Models are are now thinking a Warm Neutral which is supposed to make the PNW Warmer but Wet and it may also do the same for Great Lakes which freakens bother’s me and making all the real storms and cold out to Northeast which is expected to have a lot of northeasters this year lucky s I here with European Models are think El Nino while most of other one’s are saying Neutral or Weak La Nina not sure if the Europeans have better predictions which is predicting more of a 2009=2010 which only bought Flurries here in Washington State twice winds were not totally in there that time I think 47 mph was it in December we had Rain which was somewhat above normal for an El Nino but still it sucked here are some Predictions and other stuff.
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/seasonal.php?lead=3
http://iri.columbia.edu/climate/ENSO/currentinfo/QuickLook.html
http://www.komonews.com/home/related/127868828.html
http://www.longrangeweather.com/Long-Range-Monthly-Weather-Forecasts.htm
http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?s=8f19d168f79974e19d87b6b7370404df&showtopic=30243&st=100
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/brochures/climate/El_NinoPublic.pdf

Has of a Neutral year usually PNW has a Severe winter has it shows on that KOMO blog except they forgot to mention one year that was neutral 2008-2009 was a Neutral winter and it was hardcore once got 6 inches of snow the only year that was neutral and did not bring crap was this past one which was stupid but it seems it may playout that way this winter again Neutral winters have the pacific jetstream usually pointing at the Northwest but it can vary but temps are EC the concept with it is a it can have hard hit storms but it can have El Nino like effects were it’s Dry and Warm for a good time but the storms are stronger than what a Nina would bring it.
But plz if you read this let me know about your thoughts I know it’s early but come om most predict and Warm but Wet winter for most of U.S. Jemstic is saying Warm for all United States but Wet on some parts like the Northwest and Great Lakes. I really think this winter may mess up for the entire U.S.
I wouldn’t dwell to much on this bc in the next couple of months this will change. i personally would check it late october to november. these long range forcast have less than a 20% accuracy rate anyway so i wouldn’t worry to much. they base there long term on similar looking patterns of previous years which almost never have the same outcome.
Thank you WeatherMan; because I was getting ready to get excited; but of course you’re right!
Still……….a girl can dream…
Your welcome…who knows the weather may surprise u