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 Post subject: Explanation
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:51 am 
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"Quite honestly if you doubt the LRC just look at 500 mb charts from 37 days ago and loop them all together... do some research on your own. I posted a good comparison of 37 days, 74 days ago, 111 days ago, and even an image of May '09 next to last post on last night's blog entry. There are just too many things going on up there that match up to be totally discounted as non existant. Signature storms show up more visibly to the eye, but even general air mass propagation shows up as well. True - it would make it difficult to forecast in advance - but given the same scenario and if the LRC is in fact 37 days this year, I can - and be quoted on this - say there is a 95% chance that there will be a major storm system over northern New Mexico and southern Colorado on the weekend of December 4-5-6 and as long as it takes a similar track to the lows 37, 74, and 111 days ago (with stronger jet factored in) - Kansas City has a good shot at at least 2-4" of snow on the 6th and 7th of December.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right, then I'm right because there is a recognizable pattern with lows dropping in and digging - further south as the jet stream gets stronger - but in the same general north-south juxtaposition.

Just in case you don't want to dig for them here they are:

Yesterday: http://tinyurl.com/ygexduq
37 days before yesterday (1 cycle): http://tinyurl.com/ykmp7be
74 days before yesterday (2 cycles): http://tinyurl.com/yhhkj5l

May 31st there was a Surface low in that very familiar place but no upper level low: http://tinyurl.com/yfzqfyo

You be the judge. I'm getting all these images from http://weather.unisys.com/archive/eta_init/ and the more and more I loop them, the more and more it looks like a train moving further south over time with the strengthening and weakening phases fluctuating position based upon the strength of the jet stream at the time of year."
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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:55 am 
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Flake Fan wrote:
"Quite honestly if you doubt the LRC just look at 500 mb charts from 37 days ago and loop them all together... do some research on your own. I posted a good comparison of 37 days, 74 days ago, 111 days ago, and even an image of May '09 next to last post on last night's blog entry. There are just too many things going on up there that match up to be totally discounted as non existant. Signature storms show up more visibly to the eye, but even general air mass propagation shows up as well. True - it would make it difficult to forecast in advance - but given the same scenario and if the LRC is in fact 37 days this year, I can - and be quoted on this - say there is a 95% chance that there will be a major storm system over northern New Mexico and southern Colorado on the weekend of December 4-5-6 and as long as it takes a similar track to the lows 37, 74, and 111 days ago (with stronger jet factored in) - Kansas City has a good shot at at least 2-4" of snow on the 6th and 7th of December.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right, then I'm right because there is a recognizable pattern with lows dropping in and digging - further south as the jet stream gets stronger - but in the same general north-south juxtaposition.

Just in case you don't want to dig for them here they are:

Yesterday: http://tinyurl.com/ygexduq
37 days before yesterday (1 cycle): http://tinyurl.com/ykmp7be
74 days before yesterday (2 cycles): http://tinyurl.com/yhhkj5l
111 days before yesterday (3 cycles): http://tinyurl.com/ylbo3tb

May 31st there was a Surface low in that very familiar place but no upper level low: http://tinyurl.com/yfzqfyo

You be the judge. I'm getting all these images from http://weather.unisys.com/archive/eta_init/ and the more and more I loop them, the more and more it looks like a train moving further south over time with the strengthening and weakening phases fluctuating position based upon the strength of the jet stream at the time of year."
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I guess it is more of a segment.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:40 am 
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So what exactly are you trying to say, Flake? I look at the pictures, and basically get nothing..meaning I don't quite understand them.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:48 am 
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The Rickster wrote:
So what exactly are you trying to say, Flake? I look at the pictures, and basically get nothing..meaning I don't quite understand them.


If you look at the first too, they are nearly identical. Very very similar, and the third one is harder because

a) it was warmer and the jet stream was weaker
b) the weather pattern was morphing into what it is now
c) it will never look the same

I don't understand how you see no similarities in them, the most oblivious is the top two.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:00 am 
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Alrighty then, so what your saying is that this winter could possibly be warm? What am I missing here?


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:04 am 
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Or are you talking about the chance for a major storm in early December? I'm lost..


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:37 pm 
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For people in the KA/MO, areas yes there might be. - That might not be a major winter storm though, we only say its major if it covers up all the grass in our lawns.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:48 pm 
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Which would be very nice to see of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:43 pm 
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It would be very nice for you and my other friends in NC, and everybody here who begs for a snowy winter. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Forecast (Unofficial)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:56 pm 
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I'll be real here and now. I'mma begging for one :lol:


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